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Location: Medford, OR | https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/rvs/d/1975-fmc-motorcoach/6653432...
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Location: Cottage Grove, OR | Note that it has six lug 22.5 Alcoa’s. Also note the front air dam and side skirts. |
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Location: Medford, OR | The exterior is something to bring home to momma.....Oh, and note the other FMC next to it??
Edited by dkarnath 2018-07-31 4:42 PM
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Location: Bethune, SC | And, it is only 100 miles from me. If I had not had, in the last three years, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever. Lyme disease, prostate cancer, a 10 1/2 hour heart operation, and was not 75 years old, i would be on it in a minute.
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Location: Oceanside, CA | Nice looking coach...great place to start for a modern diesel conversion! |
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Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | I thought diesel engines ran forever. How can something that "shiny" have a worn out engine ? Does not look like it has ever squashed a bug on the Highway. Great price for a FMC that needs an engine ?
Hmmm, Lou #120
Edited by hemi354az 2018-07-31 6:48 PM
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Location: Cottage Grove, OR | Notice the driving lights built into the front bumper. This coach looks a lot like a different one that I recently saw. It may very well have many other things done to it as well. The one I saw with the same colors has Imron paint, The sane driving lights, disc brakes all around, the side skirts, etc as does this one. All engines eventually wear out if enough miles are put on it. The one I saw has 400,000 miles on the coach with its second 8.2 diesel. |
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Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | 400,000 miles on two engines ? That is just fabulous ! Lets say it was a 1973 FMC, but the 8.2 L Detroit didn't come out until 1984, so lets say this FMC got a brand new just released 8.2 L diesel engine in 1984.
So in 33 years the owner averaged 12,121 miles a year. That means a trip like from Washington DC to Santa Monica CA (2,660 miles one way on Google Maps) 4.5 times a a year, or more than twice a year Round Trip, plus a few trips to GrandMa's. That really seems like a lot of driving for 33 years on a vacation . . . from someplace back and forth to/from anyplace. How old is the owner of this 400,000 mile FMC ? What job(s) did he have all these years that gave him that much time off to accumulate those miles ?
That is just a LOT OF DRIVING in 33 Years. If the 8.2 wasn't installed until 198? or 199? . . . then that is even more miles per year. At an average speed of 55 MPH driving 8 hours a day . . . 400,000 miles takes 7272 hours.
If he drove EVERY DAY for 8 hours, that would take 303 days continuous to cover 400,000 miles. That is almost a full year of driving 8 hours a day . . . EVERY DAY.
Some how I don't think the one in Myrtle Beach has half that many miles to use up that first 8.2 L diesel engine . . . but it may have MORE !
DRIVE On ! Lou #120 |
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Location: Ignacio Colorado | Anybody want to throw out a diesel conversion cost for a do it yourself job? . Not going to even get into the working on it aspect. Ok I lied, dirty, DIRTY! I was black when I crawled out from under Stephen’s coach in Chama after adjusting the brakes.
More miles on the Franken-40 and Sitton-Cruser overdrive are needed. That should come soon.
Bang for your buck I don’t think you can beat swapping heads, cam, and exhaust manifolds from the 413HT engine onto the stock 440 along with an Edelbrock S.P.2-P intake manifold and the Chrysler overdrive transmission. All the power down where the diesel engines (the real ones) run.
High altitude mountain driving (to Chama and back) we were running 1,700-2,200 most of the time and pulled the grades at 2,500 a gear higher than the stock 440.
More miles to come.
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Location: Oceanside, CA | I can't imagine what would make Stephen's engine bay any dirtier than any 440 powered rig, it should be much cleaner, new engines just don't leak like old ones do...Mine is as clean as the day I installed it. Taking on a modern diesel swap is only for those that will need it...you tow 7500lbs like I do through the mountains and still get over 10mpg you know why. If you tried it with a 440/727 you'd spend all the conversion money on transmission rebuilds and head gasket jobs.
from a power stand point we are talking apples and oranges...I'm running a very mild tune and probably putting out 700ftlbs of torque...I can turn it up another 100ftlbs with just a download and still not kill my mpgs... |
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Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | I like the BLUE one. You like the RED one. I'm just not interested in Industrial Off Road Heavy Equipment unless it is a YELLOW Catepillar or YELLOW Komatsu.
Drive ON ! Lou #120 |
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Location: Ignacio Colorado | I’m not running a 440/727.
My 440 is like no other. And I still have to put on the HT heads and get away from the cast iron 2 barrel intake manifold. The S.P.2-P intake will provide lots more torque. Not 700 ft/lbs. Can’t wait for the 20% power increase you know is waiting for me at sea level!! Ok I’ll settle for 18% more.
I’m also not planning on pulling 7,500#.
Bill
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Location: Cottage Grove, OR | hemi354az - 2018-07-31 6:25 PM
400,000 miles on two engines ? That is just fabulous ! Lets say it was a 1973 FMC, but the 8.2 L Detroit didn't come out until 1984, so lets say this FMC got a brand new just released 8.2 L diesel engine in 1984.
So in 33 years the owner averaged 12,121 miles a year. That means a trip like from Washington DC to Santa Monica CA (2,660 miles one way on Google Maps) 4.5 times a a year, or more than twice a year Round Trip, plus a few trips to GrandMa's. That really seems like a lot of driving for 33 years on a vacation . . . from someplace back and forth to/from anyplace. How old is the owner of this 400,000 mile FMC ? What job(s) did he have all these years that gave him that much time off to accumulate those miles ?
That is just a LOT OF DRIVING in 33 Years. If the 8.2 wasn't installed until 198? or 199? . . . then that is even more miles per year. At an average speed of 55 MPH driving 8 hours a day . . . 400,000 miles takes 7272 hours.
If he drove EVERY DAY for 8 hours, that would take 303 days continuous to cover 400,000 miles. That is almost a full year of driving 8 hours a day . . . EVERY DAY
DRIVE On ! Lou #120
Well Lou, some of us just drive our coaches more than others. The person I visited with is 86 and owned his own successful business so he had time and money to travel. On my limited budget, I have driven my coach 43,000 in the last 2 3/4 years and I feel that his mileage numbers are quite reasonable. I will add another couple of thousand getting home from my current trip as I am in Niagara Falls at the moment.
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Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | Hey Stephan, It has been my experience that most Owners of their own Business are working their fanny off and really don't get much vacation.
Is the Long Leg FMC still running ? Where ? What year did it get the first 8.2 Diesel engine ? Who did the Conversion ? Does it still have the 4.63 Rockwell/FMC rear end ? What Transmission ? Has the Tranny ever been rebuilt ? At 86 years old, is the Owner ever going to put it up For Sale or does the Ripley Museum have First Rights ?
Did you use your FMC for "business" in the San Joaquin Valley before you retired ? You are "The Travellin' Man" . . . 15,000 miles a year since you and Eric finished your Diesel Conversion . . . having FUN. Good on you !
In AWE ! Lou #120
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Location: Oceanside, CA | An International/Navistar T444e (7.3 Powerstroke) would be a simple low cost swap for this coach and knock about 100lbs of engine weight off, no way I'd put another 8.2 Fun Pincher in it.. |
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Location: Medford, OR | Has anyone contacted the owner? To talk shop? Also to see if it's spam or not....I don't think it is though. I would burn the Detroit also. |
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Location: Cottage Grove, OR | hemi354az - 2018-08-01 8:50 AM
Hey Stephan, It has been my experience that most Owners of their own Business are working their fanny off and really don't get much vacation.
Is the Long Leg FMC still running ? Where ? What year did it get the first 8.2 Diesel engine ? Who did the Conversion ? Does it still have the 4.63 Rockwell/FMC rear end ? What Transmission ? Has the Tranny ever been rebuilt ? At 86 years old, is the Owner ever going to put it up For Sale or does the Ripley Museum have First Rights ?
Did you use your FMC for "business" in the San Joaquin Valley before you retired ? You are "The Travellin' Man" . . . 15,000 miles a year since you and Eric finished your Diesel Conversion . . . having FUN. Good on you !
In AWE ! Lou #120
Hey Stephan, It has been my experience that most Owners of their own Business are working their fanny off and really don't get much vacation.
****Most, not ALL. Some get the right people around them and are then much more free to travel.
Is the Long Leg FMC still running ? **** Yes. He drives it about once a month locally.
Where ? *** NC
What year did it get the first 8.2 Diesel engine ? *** I didn't ask.
Who did the Conversion ? *** I believe the owner did it or at least it was done locally to him at his direction.
Does it still have the 4.63 Rockwell/FMC rear end ? ***Yes.
What Transmission ?*** It had the Allison 545 until the Allison 1000 5 sp came out and at that time he bought one and installed it.
Has the Tranny ever been rebuilt ?*** NO
At 86 years old, is the Owner ever going to put it up For Sale or does the Ripley Museum have First Rights ? *** Not for sale, daughter will probably get it.
Did you use your FMC for "business" in the San Joaquin Valley before you retired ? *** NO, Finished the install after retiring.
You are "The Travellin' Man" . . . 15,000 miles a year since you and Eric finished your Diesel Conversion . . . having FUN. Good on you !
In AWE !
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I bought my coach to use so I am using it. |
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Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | Wow Stephan ! Who knew that the Carolinas were the center of the 8.2L Diesel Engined FMC World . . . all with many many bug free miles ? Those have got to be the highest mileage 8.2 Ls in the country !!!
Using #1046 ? Yes you are ! Keep at it . . .
Still In AWE !, Lou #120
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Location: Cottage Grove, OR | hemi354az - 2018-08-01 8:23 PM Wow Stephan ! Who knew that the Carolinas were the center of the 8.2L Diesel Engined FMC World . . . all with many many bug free miles ? Those have got to be the highest mileage 8.2 Ls in the country !!! Using #1046 ? Yes you are ! Keep at it . . . Still In AWE !, Lou #120
I don't know about bug free and no one made that representation, but, yes, the earliest conversions to the 8.2 was in NC and there was a whole cluster of FMC's converted in that area. This happened before MCR started doing conversions. He picked up on what was being done in the Carolina's as he saw business that he could do to expand his business.
Now you know!
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Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | Got any pictures of the 400,000 mile Carolina FMC that you visited ?
Lou #120 |
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Location: Ignacio Colorado | Pretty sure my parts coach (#412) had 289,000 miles ten years ago and still had a 440. Lou I think you have the speedometer out of it at your place. Some got driven some stored.
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Location: Cottage Grove, OR | hemi354az - 2018-08-02 9:50 AM Got any pictures of the 400,000 mile Carolina FMC that you visited ? Lou #120
Yes, will post them in an album in about a week. |
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Location: Scottsdale, Aridzona | Hey Stephan, It has been my experience that most Owners of their own Business are working their fanny off and really don't get much vacation.
****Most, not ALL. Some get the right people around them and are then much more free to travel.
####"Most of the people I know that are successful really don't take vacations. Their business is their vacation," Trump told CNN host Larry King in 2004. "I rarely leave. You know that." |
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Location: Oceanside, CA | I'm really disappointed I won't see Donald Trump at the campsite next to me.. |
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Buy of the day....beautiful 1975 that needs a motor
