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Turtle1
Posted 2016-11-11 6:55 AM (#4107)
Subject: Starter Bus vs. Coach?


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It would seem that different starters are used on the bus drivetrain! I was surprised by that.. My starter turns the engine over very slowly and has excessive noise levels. There is a local outfit that will rebuild for $169. Starters for a mid 70's Chrysler 440 powered vehicle, go for around $50 (rebuilt). I bought one of those and found out the hard way, that it would not fit.
I suppose it relates to the different trans. After a lot of searching and cross-reference, it seems that the starter I need was used in a lot of Chrysler powered Clark fork lifts and John Deere tractors. Available, but pretty pricey.

Anyhow, does anyone know of a less expensive starter for the bus?

Edited by Turtle1 2016-11-11 6:58 AM
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BigRabbitMan
Posted 2016-11-11 10:37 AM (#4111 - in reply to #4107)
Subject: Re: Starter Bus vs. Coach?



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I can't answer you basic question, but can confirm that the reason the starter is different is because the transmission you have also has a different bell housing and flywheel.

Beyond the applications you mentioned, that starter would have been used on many other applications using the Chrysler 440 and the Allison 540/545 transmission. I expect that a wider search would find those applications. I don't know if it would result in a lower price or not but sometimes the price is determined by the specialized application. It is a heavier duty starter than the standard starter.
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Turtle1
Posted 2016-11-11 1:15 PM (#4113 - in reply to #4107)
Subject: Re: Starter Bus vs. Coach?


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I went ahead and dropped it off for rebuilding. I could find no automotive applications for this starter. It was used quite a bit on fork lifts and farm tractors. That doesn't produce the quantity needed to get the costs down..
Interestingly, it is a direct drive starter while the coach version is gear reduced..
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Turtle1
Posted 2016-11-14 5:11 PM (#4130 - in reply to #4107)
Subject: Re: Starter Bus vs. Coach?


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Starter was done later that day. Field coils were falling apart and shorting against the case a bit. They put 4 new coils in, replacing the original 2. They said it should have more torque than original..
I also got it started! That is the first time it has run in many years! I don't know how long it has been since it ran last..
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